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From - Thu Jul 20 07:18:33 2000 Path: news.randori.com!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!netnews.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <396BC734.4364B4EC@trelos.com> From: David Peet <david.peet@trelos.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.unix.unixware.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc Subject: Re: Future of SCO Merge? References: <8irmcf$8is$1@malgudi.oar.net> <3957559C.509E7342@saki.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 75 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 01:29:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.179.57.210 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 963365361 205.179.57.210 (Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:29:21 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:29:21 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: news.randori.com comp.unix.unixware.misc:14042 comp.unix.sco.misc:62861 X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Geoff Johnson wrote: > > Its the classic price yourself out of the market game. > ... I agree! I have been telling SCO for some time now that they are charging way too much for Merge in today's market. That is why we are currently selling the Win4Lin single user version for $50. This is a low price! (But the $50 only get you minimal support directly from TreLOS.) The multi-user version of Win4Lin (version 2.0) will be out this summer sometime, and support for SMP systems. (Current versions of SCO Merge already support SMP.) SCO Merge 5, also available this summer for OpenServer, has a bit more functionality than in Win4Lin 1.0 (which is version "4.9", vs. SCO Merge being "5.0").
> Anthony W. Southworth wrote: > > > > Okay, I recently asked a question in c.u.u.m if anyone had heard anything > > about when Merge 5 was going to be released. The slide presentations > > from Forum99 on SCO's web site seem to indicate that it should already > > be out. It should be in (early?) August. So Real Soon Now. (for OpenServer only) > > I didn't get any responses, so I starting bugging someone at SCO Service > > Sales, to see if she could find out for me. After a few emails to some > > of her contacts within SCO about when Merge 5 will appear for UW7, this > > is what I found out: > > > > "No, currently Merge 5 will be released on OS5 only. Without a > > compelling business case it will not released for UW7." > > > > Now, I use Merge 4.1.1 quite heavily on my UnixWare 7.1.1 system, and > > it works well. I was looking forward to the Win98 and "native networking" > > support in Merge 5. > > > > Is there anyone else out there using Merge on UW7 who needs Merge 5 to > > be supported? Evidently not, at least according to SCO. Yes, SCO has decided not to offer this. (If demand is high enough, TreLOS could though.) One problem is that some changes in early release versions Unixware 7.1.1 cause problems with Merge, and SCO has to fix these things in UW711 before anyone can provide a Merge for UW711. (The same version of Merge that has problems on UW711 works fine on earlier versions of UW7.) So SCO has to spend effort (i.e. $$) to fix UW711. In addition, the new networking support in Merge 5 for OpenServer does not translate directly to UW7, because the networking implementation is so different betwen OSR5 and UW7. So it will take $$ to implement that feature for UW7. If there is enough demand for Merge 5 on UW7 (either with or without the new networking stuff) then it makes business sense to supply it. If TreLOS supplies it, then we might have to say to not use it on UW711 until SCO fixes UW711, and/or that it does not have the new networking stuff. So you have to let TreLOS know what the realistic demand for Merge 5 on UW7 is, and the functionality really required. (I.e. is the new networking required or not.) email info@trelos.com But note that TreLOS is not set up to provide support on UW7 at the same level as we are now doing on Linux. So if TreLOS supplies Merge 5 on UW7, it may not be with much if any support. (Then perhaps some UW7 shop could step up and sell some level of UW7 related support for Merge, for whatever price they can get.) But one thing to note: SCO Merge on OpenServer still has more slightly more functionality than on UW7, and performance is a bit, better on OpenServer. So unless you need to use UW7 for other reasons, OpenServer is the better platform for Merge.
-David Peet

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