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From: Tony Lawrence <tony@aplawrence.com> Subject: Re: Is it possible References: <95uisj$vh0$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <LgCi6.48$bV1.2385@nnrp1.sbc.net> <9qq3c5AO8ok6Ew0p@prestwich-smile-gemach.freeserve.co.uk> <3A92DFAE.FEE4B3BD@aplawrence.com> <Q+m2FQBoW5k6Ewgg@prestwich-smile-gemach.freeserve.co.uk> <3A93B056.DAED16C@aplawrence.com> <fIbVY$Cfi$k6EwDO@prestwich-smile-gemach.freeserve.co.uk> <3A9455E2.D59204@aplawrence.com> <_L%k6.133201$Z2.1768384@nnrp1.uunet.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:38:20 -0500 Ian R wrote:
(foolishness and unnecessary text clipped) > > And exactly what protocols and standards have they screwed up ? Java is the best known, but there are dozens if not hundreds of smaller little perversions spread here and there, causing constant annoyance for the rest of us. A handful or so have been mentioned in this thread, but of course the MSOFT zealots just ignore those.. > I suppose SCO has perfect implementations of 'these supposedly perverted > standards' ? It's not a matter of "perfect". Everybody makes *programming* mistakes. It's when you deliberately or otherwise prevent/screw up/etc. other OS'es from accessing protocols on your OS that you are guilty. > > The alternative is that people who DO have the knowledge > > provide the scripts, procedures, etc. That's a management > > issue, of course, but the dumbness of Windows encourages > > people to do these stupid things. If they couldn't do them > > so easily, they'd have to ask someone to get the task done- > > and that would likely be much more efficient, safe, and > > accurate. > > > > Back to planet earth. Scripts ? To write a memo ?
No, but when the SAME memo needs to be sent every month with perhaps some new or replaced information to a list, the typical MSOFT company does it by hand- MAYBE with a mail merge, but often not even that. (PLEASE: for the morons who reply without reading the entire post: please read at least TWO of the paragraphs that follow before you waste everyone's time with a stupid post) Let's take a real life example: I have a list of folks who want to receive email when new pages are added to my web site. Naturally I use Majordomo for the list, and naturally I have a script that generates the text- it figures out what I've added recently, creates the text, decides whether it is enough to send out a mailing, and sends it to Majordomo if it is. In other words, the entire thing happens without intervention or conscious effort on my part. I gurantee that 99% of MSOFT shops faced with the same need would do it by hand BECAUSE THEY CAN AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY. And of course this same thing CAN BE DONE on Windows- understand that I am not saying you NEED Unix to do this- just that the "ease of use" and obscurity of Windows scripting causes this inefficiency. >How can you even mention > efficient if in your world every time someone needed to type a memo they had > to go get a tech ? What does a tech know about business objectives, > forecasting, scheduling etc ? Sounds more and more like someone is bitter > about not keeping up with technology. Huh? Again: I am MSCE certified - or technically, was- I haven't kept up with the tests, but I work with MS OS'es every day- I have to, because 99.99% of the time those are the clients, and very often there's NT mixed in too for authentication. I "keep up" with technology. I have to. My income depends on it, so you had better believe I don't keep in the dark. I don't consider myself "expert" at Windows- I do find it amusing that sometimes I know more than the supposed expert on site.. As to the rest, a tech *consultant* has to know quite a bit about business objectives, forecasting, scheduling, accounting, inventory control and more- if I didn't, I couldn't do my job, which is precisely fitting technology to business objectives, forecasting, etc. Sheesh :-) > > > > > Nonsense. A professional typing pool is far more efficient > > and far less costly than what we have now- inexperienced > > people futzing with fonts, adjusting their margins, wasting > > time.. I see it everywhere I go- legions of middle > > management people wasting countless hours preparing ugly > > documents that could be done faster and better by a > > professional. > > > > Most secretaries know more about fonts, margins and their word processors in > general than any technical professional including myself and apparently you. That's the damn point. Can you try to follow this? A professional secretary can produce a consistent, good looking letter in a quarter of the time and at far less cost than someone who is not proficient. Yet the "ease of use" has caused the elimination of professional typists almost everywhere- managers everywhere produce their own crappy, inconsistent, ugly letters- BECAUSE THEY CAN. > I suppose you consider sending a text file to lp a professional document ? Duh. But once again, the Microsoft way is often inefficient. If you know anything about Unix Sys V printing, you know what a printer "class" is- it's a "printer" that actually is a pool of similar printers- a job sent to that printer will print on the first available printer in the pool. It's a very handy abstraction, and although I've never seen it, I bet there's some way to do something similar in Msoft OS's. But I've never seen any one do it, because the "obvious" way is too easy- And of course, I can come up with examples of "printers" that need to process their input: make substitutions, copy to faxes, etc. : stuff that CAN be done with MSFT but almost never is- if certain documents need to be both faxed and printed, I guarantee it will be done manually and with two steps- again, wasting time and money. And if it needs to be preprocessed, that will be an entirely different step. > > > > > > But that was the whole point. Remember, Microsoft's mission statement > > > was "A computer on every desktop". Note the word "every". They want > > > every single person to be able to use them, so they need to cater for > > > the lowest common denominator. > > > > > > But that costs us so much.. > > > > What cost ? The cost of inefficiency. Why is it that people can't seem to remember even three paragraphs back? Has the world really become this dumb? > You want to point out the benefits of your OS of choice ? That's fine. Sigh. That's NOT what I was doing here. I'm not touting Unix- I'm pointing out the problems with MSOFT- if there is something I do with Unix that I couldn't do with MSOFT I can't think of it right now- the point is that DOING it is often obscure or difficult- THAT'S the problem and THAT's what I don't like about MSOFT OS'es and THAT's why they retard efficiency. > Haven't seen any from you. You want to point out weaknesses in other OS's ? > That's fine. So far all I've heard unrealistic biased spouting. And all I see is folks who can't see the obvious and can't follow a thread.. Well, at least you aren't posting in HTML- another Microsoft "encouragement" that they should burn in hell for.. -- Tony Lawrence (tony@aplawrence.com) SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, job listings and more :
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---October 20, 2004
Most of the modern windows based environments (that is X or MS) are designed to be distracting. The average user has no chance to stay focused.
It is probably best to see this as a business advantage and just run rings around the idiots until they get the message or go broke/get sacked wondering about it.
AngeryAdmin... :-|
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