A Golf Cart is not a Computer

I bought a used electric golf cart last year. Unfortunately, this year the darn thing stopped working.

By the way, I don't play golf. We live in a gated community with private roads, so we can use golf carts to get around. It's a pretty big place - we're more than two miles from the clubhouse and mail center, so the cart is really nice to have, though more for my wife than for me. Her arthritis keeps her from doing more than fifteen minutes or so.. But even for me it's nice to have in rainy weather when I want to run down to get the mail or whatever.

You can't let batteries discharge over the winter, so when it got cold I moved it out back near an electrical outlet where I could plug the charger in. The the charging circuit on this is supposed to be smart enough to only run when necessary, so it should be safe to just plug it in and forget it, but I'm not trusting. I hooked up a voltmeter so I could keep an eye on the charge and do it manually. It turned out that turning on the charger every few days kept the voltage up where it should be.. or so I thought.

After the snow melted, I drove the cart from out back of the house to the driveway and gave it another charge, then took it out for a spin. Two hundred feet later it stopped dead and I had to push it back.. good exercise, yes, but not what I had in mind.

I had bought the tech manual for this, so I'm not entirely helpless. It is an electric cart, and I grok electric stuff to some degree, and have voltmeters and clips and all that stuff to test with. The manual is pretty detailed and shows test points and expected resistance or voltage for just about everything. I was actually pretty hopeful when I flipped through it to the troubleshooting section.

Unfortunately, I didn't get very far. I was able to eliminate some of the more obvious things that could be wrong, but then things started getting not so easy: the things I needed to get at are underneath the main body - no matter how I twisted, there's no way I can get at the places I need to poke my leads.

Aaargh. The manual does have instructions for removing the body cover, but it's a fair pile of work, and there's a lot of rusty looking stuff that has to come off. Rusty looking stuff scares me because sometimes you can take it off but you can't put it back on.. which often leads to a situation where I have to pay someone money to fix what I broke in addition to what was already broken.

I'm ready to give up now - I have bad feelings about pushing my limited mechanical skills farther. My wife, however, cheerfully says that I should "call someone". By that she doesn't mean someone who fixes these things for a living; she means someone in the neighborhood.

Certainly there are people in the neighborhood better with tools than I am. There are probably monkeys at the zoo who are better. But do I really think any of them have ever taken apart a golf cart? Well, I know that one of them has, but still: I'd rather leave the whole thing to someone with a lot of experience.

So there we are. Dead golf cart. Wife says I should call a neighbor. I want to call the golf cart place to just come get it. Instead I found http://server1.buggiesunlimited.com/phpBB2/ and described what I've been able to do so far.. they say it might the On Board Computer - a pricey little item, of course. Aaargh!

But after mulling this over, I decided to pull the batteries. They are the weakest link because they are so old, and I also found out something disturbing: the previous owner had let them run down over one winter. The people who told me that said they were the place he had bought it from. I had called them looking for prices on the batteries, and they remembered this cart. They had been able to revive the batteries, but said they were surprised: they had actually reversed polarity.. that's NOT good.

I'd be really mad at the guy who sold it to me if were not for the fact that I knew the batteries weren't going to last long. No, he didn't tell me they had frozen, but I did know that they were six years old, and that's very old for this kind of battery. So, yeah, he "cheated" me, but only a little.

A new set is around $800.00, and it looks like I'm going to need that no matter what. So I pulled them.

By the way, that's not easy to do. These puppies are in tight spaces and are very heavy - over 60 lbs each. I'm pretty strong, but it wasn't easy for me to get them out. I grabbed one post with vise-grips and the other with pliers and lifted until I could get underneath with my free hand.. not easy. Pro's probably have some tool to help out..

Once I had them all out, it was easy to see that things weren't good. The sides were actually bulged out and although three of them were putting out a strong 8V, one was at 4V and the two others were at 6V - they all need to be at least 7V and within a half volt of each other. They also need to put out at least 42V overall - these would have been maybe 38V at best. I had thought I had measured 48V when I had them ganged together, but either my meter was off or my eyes are.. these are bad batteries for sure.

I checked around the Internet for price, but you don't want to pay shipping on these things, so I needed someplace close by. Turned out that someone I know from some political activity in the town is a dealer for the Trojan T-875's I needed. I called him, and he was $20 cheaper than the best Internet price I could find so I asked him to get me six.. it came to a bit over $800.00 with tax, but that is what it is.

While waiting for those I ordered new cables and a battery lifting strap from Buggies Unlimited - another $22.00 but why put in new batteries without new cables and the lifting strap would save my fingers from being crushed putting them back in.

Everything came yesterday, but it was raining so I waited until this morning before putting them in. That strap definitely made the difference. The batteries are still heavy, but you can position them easily and just drop them in gently. Within a half hour I had everything in place, cinched down, connected and ready. I put the key in, turned it on, released the brake and..

Success! The beast lives again.

What's this got to do with Linux or Unix or Mac? Nuttin.

If you need help with a golf cart, I suggest asking at Buggies Unlimited. Nice people, very helpful.

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Tue Jun 9 15:44:07 2009:   anonymous


I have an E-Z- go gas powered golf cart and when I press on the gas pedal to start it nothing happens. battery is new and it was working fine and all of a sudden it doesnt start. can you help in determining what could possibly be wrong with it??





Tue Jun 9 15:49:13 2009:   TonyLawrence


Well, no, I can't help but the forum at http://server1.buggiesunlimited.com/phpBB2/ is a good place to start.

Also, you can buy a manual for your cart and it has wiring schematics and troubleshooting guides: http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/search.asp?keyword=ezgo+manual&x=0&y=0



Wed Aug 26 21:06:42 2009:   george


i just bought a electric golf cart and with the key off it is still getting power to the forward and reverse other words itsworking and should not be tried taking wires off of key switch and even runnig ajumper wire between the 2wires that go to the key switch on/ off .Could this be the solinoid sticking or something else



Wed Aug 26 21:10:04 2009:   TonyLawrence


I don't know - suggest asking at http://server1.buggiesunlimited.com/phpBB2/

They are usually very helpful there.



Tue Oct 6 13:45:45 2009:   Peter


Any help out there? I have an EZGO electric cart that was driving great, I went over a slight bump, (a PVC waste line cap) and may have bumped the undercarriage....not sure. anyway, now the cart will not go, no click when you hit the gas. any ideas?



Tue Oct 6 13:47:33 2009:   TonyLawrence


Again, I don't know and suggest asking at http://server1.buggiesunlimited.com/phpBB2/




Sat Jan 16 16:21:01 2010:   Paul


I let my batteries completely drain and now the charger won't turn on, do batteries need to have some charge in them in order for the charger to come on? i just had the charger serviced so I assume it's working, thanks



Sat Jan 16 16:25:18 2010:   TonyLawrence


I think it does, yes. But ask that question at http://server1.buggiesunlimited.com/phpBB2/ - they'll know for sure.



Sun Jan 17 02:36:04 2010:   BigDumbDinosaur
http://bcstechnology.net

Tony, you missed your calling. You should quit this computer stuff and instead fix golf carts. If I lived near you I'd be doing it. <Grin> So far, nobody has figured out a way to export golf cart repair to India and make money doing so.

To the fellow who ran his batteries totally flat, throw them away, meaning recycle them. As you pay for the new ones, remember that batteries must be maintained with periodic charging, even when the cart is not being used. Most electronically controlled chargers will not produce any output if connected to completely dead (as in the DVM-reads-zero-dead) batteries. The old transformer-rectifier chargers that predominated in the past will produce output no matter what.



Sun Feb 14 21:15:50 2010:   Beachcart


I have an E-Z- go gas powered golf cart and when I press on the gas pedal to start it nothing happens. battery is new and it was working fine and all of a sudden it doesnt start. can you help in determining what could possibly be wrong with it??



Sun Feb 14 21:29:04 2010:   TonyLawrence


Yes. Read the comments.



Mon Feb 15 04:50:50 2010:   BigDumbDinosaur
http://bcstechnology.net

Tue Jun 9 15:44:07 2009: anonymous
I have an E-Z- go gas powered golf cart and when I press on the gas pedal to start it nothing happens. battery is new and it was working fine and all of a sudden it doesnt start. can you help in determining what could possibly be wrong with it??

Sun Feb 14 21:15:50 2010: Beachcart
I have an E-Z- go gas powered golf cart and when I press on the gas pedal to start it nothing happens. battery is new and it was working fine and all of a sudden it doesnt start. can you help in determining what could possibly be wrong with it??

Tony. yuh notice anything odd here? <Grin>

BTW, to those who can't get their golf carts started or otherwise functional, take a look at the driver's seat interlock switch. These devices have a long history of causing golf carts, lift trucks, etc., to suddenly go lame. I could offer a method of fixing the problem without any tools, but it's an inherently hazardous technique and I don't want anyone trying to start a lawsuit over it.



Sun Aug 14 14:25:34 2011:   Bill


My Ezgo just stopped. The batteries are fully charged. I cleaned the cables and checked the wires going to the solenoid and black box behind the solenoid. No burned wires that I can find. Press the accelerator and you can hear the solenoid click. Help



Sun Aug 14 14:32:23 2011:   TonyLawrence


Please read the other comments. I can't help you.



Sun Aug 14 20:04:27 2011:   BigDumbDinosaur
http://bcstechnology.net

I'm telling you, Tony. You need to start up a golf cart repair business, or at least a 24 hour 1-900 hotline. I can see it now: a buck a minute for wrong answers and five smackers a minute for the right ones.

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